Full Version: the future of gaming?

From: ryan [#1]
 3 May 2009
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http://www.onlive.com/

the future of gaming, taking the lessons Steam taught and blowing teh whole thing into the mainstream mainstream, or a bunch of vapourware touting chancers?

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From: jimR (ZWISS) [#2]
 3 May 2009
To: ryan [#1] 3 May 2009

http://www.offworld.com/2009/04/ragdoll-metaphysics-cloud-gami.html

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From: Spanjab [#3]
 3 May 2009
To: ryan [#1] 3 May 2009

I'm not convinced the speed or stability of broadband in the UK is good enough for this to work alas.

It might be OK on a Tuesday lunchtime but evenings and weekends I reckon it'll be a laggy pile of shit.

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From: Jamie (M_PIQUET) [#4]
 3 May 2009
To: ryan [#1] 3 May 2009

One thing I've had on my mind recently is the history of gaming or, more precisely, my history of gaming. I know how to play most modern games because of 25 years of constant play but I wonder how Rory is going to manage modern games in ten years time. I'm actually quite sad that he'll probably ignore all the classic games that formed the backbone of ny gaming education. I digress...

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From: ryan [#5]
 3 May 2009
To: Jamie (M_PIQUET) [#4] 3 May 2009

my single greatest overriding fear used to be spiders, but now it is that the time will come that me and olli sit down to watch Star Wars (or play Fate of Atlantis...) and he'll turn around to me with his childish little eyes wide and say "dad, what the hell was that pile of crap?"

well, that and olli being bitten by a radioactive spider and mutating. eitehr is pretty horrifying.

retro gaming is only relevant to those that were there. like the Vietnam war, but with the only casualties being treasured memories of Horace Goes Skiing holding any entertainment value whatsoever.

EDITED: 3 May 2009 by RYAN

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From: roBurky [#6]
 3 May 2009
To: ryan [#5] 4 May 2009

I think you're wrong on that. When I worked in an after-school club, the club's SNES was more popular than its Playstation 2. And the cheap retro Ms Pac-Man joystick thing you plugged straight into the TV was more popular than either of them. The simple controls make the retro stuff quite timeless, especially for young children.

Of course, freebie game Seiklus on the PC was more popular than anything else the club had, game-wise.

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From: roBurky [#7]
 4 May 2009
To: Jamie (M_PIQUET) [#4] 4 May 2009

Although I know what you mean about how a different personal history of gaming.

I've started a university course about 5 years late. It's a game development course, so the topic of games played as children does come up when I talk to my younger peers, and I'm beginning to feel very old as I notice generational differences in our perception of games. At the age I was playing Sonic on the mega drive, they were playing 3D platformers on the Playstation. They don't actually have any memory of 2D games, and I can see the influence of that in the things they choose to try to make.

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From: ryan [#8]
 4 May 2009
To: roBurky [#6] 4 May 2009

when it was a rainy lunchbreak when i was at school we would often pile into one of the mobile classrooms, huddle around an aging pc and play star control 1 tournaments. we also played scorched earth which let us have eleventy people in hotseat mode.

it was lots of fun, but i think it those two games were so popular because of their rapid fire nature - games ended fairly quickly and you didn't have long to wait until your turn came around again. multiplayer games like that are just a means to an end - you're actually playing with your friends rather than the game, if you see what i mean.

if we'd have been settling down for a solo gaming session i don't think Scorched Earth against computer opponents would have been my first choice when i could have been playing Dune2.

i bought UFO the other day on Steam (it's the only game i can run on the EEE pc) and my steam profile currently shows a frankly embarrassing number of hours playing my favourite game of all time without any sense of nostalgia or irony. However if i could actually run anything else on that PC, i can guarantee i would have spent only a fraction of that time in UFO...

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From: Spanjab [#9]
 4 May 2009
To: roBurky [#7] 4 May 2009

They totally missed the age where i would type in a listing from a magazine onto my ZX81! :-)

They never lived!

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From: ryan [#10]
 4 May 2009
To: Spanjab [#9] 4 May 2009

much like the code samples, which never worked.

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From: red (REDEYE_UK) [#11]
 4 May 2009
To: Spanjab [#9] 4 May 2009

I still have very fond memory's of typing in hundreds of lines of code into my ZX81, only to find it wouldn't work and I had to go back through it all to find the one extra space too many.

I saw a ZX81 in the local museum a couple of years ago when I was in with the little one, made me feel rather old :)

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From: Spanjab [#12]
 4 May 2009
To: red (REDEYE_UK) [#11] 4 May 2009

Yeah, those listings never worked! I typed in a huge one on my Sharp MZ-80A which took ages and I could never get the fecker to work! :-)

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